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cjustice
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Posted: Mon Nov 27th, 2006 06:01 am | 1st Post |
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| Hello there... I have a question, I am doing a research paper for my class in Juvenile delinquency and the topic I am doing is gangs in our military. What are some good websites about that topic? I have a question for you, do you have any experience arresting gang members that were in the military that used it against the police force? Well thank u and and talk to you soon!
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cjustice
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Posted: Mon Nov 27th, 2006 06:01 am | 2nd Post |
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Here are three hyperlinks to information about gangs in the military. The first two are news stories and the third is a research paper.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/5255692/detail.html?rss=dgo&psp=news
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,96056,00.html?ESRC=army-a.nl
http://www.stormingmedia.us/15/1559/A155953.html
What you will find is a mixing of the terms gang and extremists. There is some evidence to suggest that members of domestic extremist groups (or domestic terrorists) have benefited from their military training; ALA Timothy McVey. I don’t have any personal experience. Make sure you take advantage of your university’s online library…try the search terms gang, gangs and military in either proquest or ebschost.
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geissj
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Posted: Mon Nov 27th, 2006 02:12 pm | 3rd Post |
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Here is another link that I use in my gang presentations. I have interviewed numerous gang members who have military experience. Some have joined the military as a way out of the gang while others have joined for the training. Everyone has a different story and they are all very interesting.
http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/videos/video08.php
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cjustice
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Posted: Mon Nov 27th, 2006 06:29 pm | 4th Post |
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From Signal 88, off board
I was an MP in the Army from 1986-1993...
The Army was infested with gang members. Its interesting you brought this up. Most people were in shock when I brought up gangs in the military. While at Ft. Carson, Colorado I observed that were hitting all branches of the service. Colorado Springs being mostly Army Air Force, but we had the shipwrecked (Navy) and some Marines.
The activity started out as small things, such as gang fights; then came the drugs and a highly publicized gang rape. One night I came across a van parked by a gym. It was loaded with automatic weapons and over 1000 kilos of cocaine. We tied it to a solider that went by a street name of Kingpen. The Post Commander tried to make a stand and they made an attempt to rebel. The gang leaders decided to stage a bar fight and then three groups would do drive bys on the gate MPs. We were able to stop it before it happened. It started with the confinement of the known gang leader. We took 25 soldiers 15 Airmen into custody. These were leaders mind you, not regular gang members.
It was really out of control. It continues today military is a good way to pipeline drugs, get combat training and move members place to place. They are in all areas. PSC for obtaining false IDs and routing soldiers to new posts MP units (our intel on the earlier gang event was from the Provost Marshal’s sectary, an E-4 dating a gang leader, wonder how much she leaked to them) and the medical fields (easy access to drugs).
Overseas I worked several cases of armory personnel ordering weapons parts and shipping them to the US piece by piece. From .45s, M-16s on up to .50 cal machine guns. One had been doing it for 3 years before getting caught. He kept a ledger. Anther problem in Europe was slavery (mainly Philippines natives used for maids and prostitutes).
I worked for 14 years at the Oklahoma County Sheriff’s Office doing drug interdiction. Tinker AFB is within the county. I saw that they tried to use the AFB as a security blanket. They would do a crime and run back on base. Drugs seemed to be the biggest market, but I still saw airmen being arrested on drive bys, assault, and prostitution.
It will continue to be a problem. It is a easy way to train members in combat. It is easy to move drugs through military members, now more than ever. Officers do not look closely at them and see them as combat vets. The Army has had problems with re-enlistment so they will continue to turn their backs. They do not seem to dig into the recruits past well enough. Another problem I see appearing is with all the combat vets coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan is that if they do not readjust or feel like they fit back into society they may fall into gang activity.
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