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CRIM112VANG
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Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 06:02 am |
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Yes, everyone does have the right to say whatever it is that he or she wishes, but on My Space, I believe there are limitations as to what you can say, for example, Randy is not ranting or raving on what he did, therefore it is ok for him to have a page. What he did was wrong, but people can't use it against him forever. He is simply using My Space as a form of communication. If people do not like it, don't go to his page.
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SAMW
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Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 02:33 pm |
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I believe this is what is wrong with our society today I myself have not been a model citizen all my life nor have I done anything close to a crime that would land me on death row. I am not a pro death penalty but when all the facts have been looked at and we know for sure that this is the indvidual(s) 100% that have committed these crimes then they have this coming to them.
Murder is something that is NOT FIXABLE people, you cant go back and replace the broken window or apologize for punching that person. Just think if that were your SON, HUSBAND, NEPHEW or whatever would you forgive that person or want them to keep on enjoying their livelihood.
I'm not saying treat the person(s) inhumanely, but no, I wouldn't want him to enjoy himself because outside of some people who really wants to know what is happening on death row every day.
Again not taking away from what we are talking about but Stanley "Tookie" Williams wrote a few children's books and tried to divert children from joining gangs. I would say at least that was constructive but MYSPACE.
You do the math!!!!!!
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cjustice
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Posted: Sat Dec 2nd, 2006 04:31 am |
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I thought I would jump in for a second because SAMW has raised and interesting point - is the murder of a police officer somehow different than the murder of an ordinary citizen. I would say yes. The murder of a police officer has a long-lasting impact on a community because the police officer, an armed and trained individual, was unable to protect themselves. The typical community reaction is, "if the cops can't protect themselves, who can?" Fear is substantially increased and the affect is longer-lasting; furthermore, this is similiar to the impact of hate crime in the way it instills fear, etc. Second, an attack on a police officer is an attack on the institutions of our government. Police are the most visible representative of the government, and again, goes back to creating community fear of crime.
Fear of crime leads to many things - decay, failure to report, and simply more crime. So, to society, murdering a police officer (especially during a jail break), has a different, and perhaps more serious impact on society.
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112YGonzales
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Posted: Mon Dec 4th, 2006 07:06 am |
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| I think they should not be allowed the right to have a my space account because that would give them another way of getting to the out side and things like set up killings or hits might accrue. they is no need for the inmates to have Internet access. thats my opinion.
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112YGonzales
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Posted: Mon Dec 4th, 2006 07:08 am |
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| I agree with you I don't think that the corrections dep. are seeing what tey are getting them salves in to and what the consequences are to giving inmates this type of privlage.
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cjustice wrote: I thought I would jump in for a second because SAMW has raised and interesting point - is the murder of a police officer somehow different than the murder of an ordinary citizen. I would say yes. The murder of a police officer has a long-lasting impact on a community because the police officer, an armed and trained individual, was unable to protect themselves. The typical community reaction is, "if the cops can't protect themselves, who can?" Fear is substantially increased and the affect is longer-lasting; furthermore, this is similiar to the impact of hate crime in the way it instills fear, etc. Second, an attack on a police officer is an attack on the institutions of our government. Police are the most visible representative of the government, and again, goes back to creating community fear of crime.
Fear of crime leads to many things - decay, failure to report, and simply more crime. So, to society, murdering a police officer (especially during a jail break), has a different, and perhaps more serious impact on society.
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I would have to agree with CJUSTICE and for all the reasons stated; furthermore in most states the murder of a Peace Officer is a Capitol case. As stated it does send shock waves through the local community, not to mention the law enforcement community. Generally when a police officer is killed in the line of duty thousands of people attend the funeral, mostly fellow police officers right up to the Govenor and/or the Attorney General. These funerals draw heavy press coverage, which would futher ingrain the muder to general public. While any murder is a tragic event, you are not going to see thousands of strangers (commrades) show up at the funeral of say a plumber, office worker etc. The public sees this wonders if they are safe.
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Jose Munoz
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Posted: Tue Dec 5th, 2006 10:05 pm |
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| Myspace is a big discussion among many people. There is talk myspace being ethical or not. this world is not perfect nor is myspace. There is only so much monertering one can do. In my one opion they should take off his myspace or any myspace that has bad content but as i said there is no way to moitor that because of the amount of people who have an account.
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Posted: Tue Dec 5th, 2006 10:08 pm |
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| I would have to agree with you on this topic because if we do not put a stop to this now it can grow into something to big to handle
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Posted: Wed Dec 6th, 2006 03:34 am |
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| I agree with you every one does have the right to have a my space account. However, As for Randy he should not be granted the right to have a my space account because of his unlawful crime that he's commited. He needs to learn from his mistake and suffer the consequence for what he has done to that officer.
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joseac
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Posted: Wed Dec 6th, 2006 05:03 am |
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| I believe that Randy Halprin's website at Myspace should be removed becaeu that's an unethical thing to do becaseu it promotes violence and serves as a role model to people who are in Myspace to do the same crimes. it's a shame that Myspace has Randy's website avaliable but that's how business works. the cons are that Myspace gets familiarized with everbody and it gets famous about a special circumstance. having a killer on death row is not good, but everything goes as long it sells. morals are not shown in Myspace bacsue they promote bad influece to the public and to its members. money is what matters not morals.
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Posted: Wed Dec 6th, 2006 05:05 am |
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| i don't agree that everyone should be avaliable to have Myspace becaseu bad messages and bad influences may be taken across. the website are not for criminals.
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Crim112Abruzzo
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 04:20 am |
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| I agree that he should not have a myspace account. Because he is in jail I don't think he should have equal rights. I believe his rights should be reduced considering he is in prison. Half of the people not in prison cannot even afford to have the internet, why should he have more rights than people not in prison?
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Crim112Robinson
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 07:55 pm |
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| I feel that even though this man is on death row he still can hurt people by manipulating them to do things for him. There are plenty of desperate women who would love to marry this man (ex. Richard Ramirez) and once he has lured one in then he can manipulate them to send him money and other personal things. I honestly feel that he could "hurt" someone that way and he shouldn't be allowed to have a myspace account.
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Crim112Gagnon
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 09:09 pm |
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I can understand why people would not want convicted killers on Myspace. I think it is Myspace's choice to allow everyone to have a page on their website. If someone doesn't like it, they don't have to use the website. There are others that conduct the same way.
But there is also a right to freedom of speech. If someone doesn't want to look at Randy Halprin's page, they shouldn't. His page is private, it shouldn't matter anyway.
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sirhc9999
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 10:06 pm |
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As much as I would like to say that he doens't deserve to have a myspace page, That is not possible. Yes, he is a cop killer. He will be punished for that, by death. You cannot control what information is on the internet, becuase like the article stated, he is not the one publishing the material. It is from an outside source. Maybe they are doing it to portray the human side of this man, and not the killer everybody else has gotten to see. This could be the famielies way of grieving for the loss of their son. Remember, the officer is not the only one who lost a life, the family of the murderer is suffering too.
Myspace is ethically liable only if they have made it perfectly clear in their rules of use that nobody who is incarcerated can have a myspace page.
Morally, I believe Myspace should remove it. This man has violated in the most heinous way, and should not be able to have any of the basic rights of those who obey the law.
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 10:08 pm |
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| I agree that the page should not be deleted, but not becuase he isn't capable of anymore harm. He isn't the one publishing the page...I would assume that his family is doing it. The family shouldn't be punished for his wrong doings.
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Crim112Gonzales
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Posted: Sun Dec 10th, 2006 10:13 pm |
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I believe that myspace should have some type of government regulations on who can join and who cant. For my own reasons, (how i was raised and what i've been taught)
I think the account should be deleted.
Myspace doesn't have any ethical duties. If this case is getting them bad publicity, then I can see them closing his account for self preservation. If it is just getting them publicity, then I can see them leaving it on until they are told to take it off.
Myspace can be full of predators. A person of any age can register and say that they are whatever age they want to be. They can post any picture they want. I could make myself appear to be an old man if i desired. According to the NBC report, someone outside of prison is doing this for him. Inmates in Texas do not have internet access. Someone is posing as him and relaying information like he himself had an account. I hope the government someday can enforce some carefully thought out policies for myspace.
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Crim112Gonzales
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Posted: Sun Dec 10th, 2006 10:25 pm |
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I agree with Garcia and Sillerio that the mans account should be deleted. It is sad and unjust that whoever is relaying the information is taunting the officer's family. His account is now set to private, but that doesn't stop his remarks from being hurtful to the victims family. Since he is on death row, this wont be a problem for much longer.
People can say that he was innocent or whatever. Once the information on his page starts becoming herrasment and violating someone else's rights, then it should be taken off.
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Posted: Sun Dec 10th, 2006 11:34 pm |
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I believe the ethical issues that might stand are the fact that a criminal has a myspace account where there are dozens and dozens of young kids and teens that socialize on there everyday. For a person that is on death row and is using the Internet as a means to socialize with others. I can understand that a mother can be mad about this because it probably feels as if he's not really behind bars because he can still talk to others on the outside.
Myspace doesn't have an obligation to refuse people to set up an account. Its not like the users pay a fee to join as a member. The only things I know of that are not allowed on myspace is obscene and/or nudity on pictures. They never ask you things about yourself or what type of person you are. This is a website that allows people to express themselves freely and myspace isn't doing anything unethical.
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CRIM112cordero
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Posted: Sun Dec 10th, 2006 11:37 pm |
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| I agree that anyone is able to have a page on myspace. Its their free choice and it's not myspaces job to stop it. If you dont like it then don't bother with it. It's not like its going to hurt you because their are millons of people on that site anyways. What are the chances of coming across it?
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