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JHandCj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 12:32 am | 41st Post |
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| I believe that almost every course in criminal justice relates to terrorism in some way. The enforcement function foucuses on law enforcement on every level of governemnt, local, state, and federal. Since Terrorism plays a role and effects every level of governemnt it's safe to say that terrorism deffinitely effects what we learn in the class enforcement function. Terrorism has bacome more and more destructive over the years, if we don't find a way to stop it all together it's bound to only get worse. With all that has happened with terrorism in the past such as the Oaklahoma city bombings and most recent, 9-11, Police duties have had to be altered in many ways. Police are not trying to find ways to help to make America feel safer from the threats that terrorist place on Americans every day.
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JHandCj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 12:34 am | 42nd Post |
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| I too believe that we really need to look at terrorism within our country such as gangs because they seem to happen more frequently. I also feel that the attacks that happen to Americans on an international level seem to be bigger, stronger attacks that need to stop. Either way, terrorism is a horrible thing that threatens our lives everyday.
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mdelgadoCJ31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 02:03 am | 43rd Post |
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jgonzalezcj31507 wrote:.For one, i believe gangs do cause terrorism in our own
I'm not quite sure gangs cause terrorism. When was the last time you saw one on the news threatening to execute someone for political demands? They're way more classifiable as "street criminals" than "terrorists."
They do instill fear in the public, I believe. The fear would be much lessened if they actually learned how to shoot so innocent bystanders would not be at risk as much.
-Matt
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rmcnultycj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 02:52 am | 44th Post |
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I think that Terrorism is a very very important topic, and while in Enforcement Function we have yet to learn about it, I do think we will because i think its hard to take a Criminal Justice class and not talk about it. Terrorism is a term that is strictly used in a negative connotation. Terrorism is a term used to describe UN moral, hateful, and violent acts committed to a person or persons for many reasons, ones we are familiar with today are the ones that were committed for political and religious reasons.
I honestly don't know to much on the topic, but I know that there is terrorism and then we have terrorist that carry out these hateful acts. I don't think I fully understand why. And I think its because its hard for me to imagine a person that can inflict so much devastation, such as the acts committed on 9/11.
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rmcnultycj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 02:54 am | 45th Post |
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I Guess i do agree that gangs could also be considered a form of terriorism.
I never thought about it before, but it does make sense. Think about all the illegal, hateful acts they do in order to gain power and respect. And isn't that basically what terrorism is about? Trying to gain Power?? Is that the point
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jncj33007
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 03:20 am | 46th Post |
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Gang members, felons, activists, anarchists, are types of terroists. I feel that the War on Terrorism ((if actually a war)) should be extended to our country to stop the "gang terrorism" in our cities.
Joe
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etorrescj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 07:05 pm | 47th Post |
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Hello everyone,
When I hear the word terrorism I think back to Sept.11, 2001. The people who were responsible for the attacks on Sept.11, 2001, were trying to intimidate not only the U.S., but people around the world who want to stop the spread of terrorism. We as a nation can not forget about the events that took place that day, and continue to fight terrorism as long as it takes until that threat is gone. Unfortunately, in our textbook, it states that we will be fighting terrorism for some time. The FBI has defined terrorism as "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."
Our textbook discusses that our first line of defense from an attack is our local law enforcement, and how the events of 9/11 have triggered our agencies throughout the country to be prepared for an attack at all times. We have been coming up with new technology to help us prevent future attacks. I think that our local law enforcement is our best prevention because they are the first people on the scene.
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etorrescj31507
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 07:17 pm | 48th Post |
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Hi mguerrero,
I agree with you 100% that the word terrorism relates with intimidation. The people who commit terrorist acts want to instill fear and intimidation so that they can fullfil their cowardly behavior towards innocent civilians. I also agree with you that terrorism carries a negative connotation, and anyone who associates themselves with terrorists groups should be put away.
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ceichenlaubunion
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Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2007 05:08 am | 49th Post |
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In Chapter Fourteen of Mr. Foster's text (Police Technology), mention is made of the "USA Patriot Act", or "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism, as well as of the Foreign Intelligence Service Act (FISA).
These references highlight some of the changes made following the terrorist attacks of September 11th in the area of domestic surveillance and communications. The Patriot Act lowered the requirements for surveilling suspected terrorists. These changes reflect our nation's committment to eradicating terrorism and lay the foundation for fundamentally changing the way law enforcement responds to terrorist attacks.
The references to technology in the text as it relates to terrorism help to foster a better understanding of how the course material applies to terrorism.
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ceichenlaubunion
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Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2007 05:32 am | 50th Post |
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I too agree that the word intimidation is synonymous with the word terrorism.
To quote President Bush's Address to Joint Session of Congress (09/20/01):
"We will direct every resource at our command-every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, every instrument of law enforcement, every financial influence, and every necessary weapon of war-to the destruction and to the defeat of the global terror network."
And to conclude...
"Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: The last of human freedoms-to chose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances-to choose one's own way." -Viktor Frankel
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csaldivarcj33007
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Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2007 11:44 pm | 51st Post |
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I see terrorism as a source of violence against others, mostly for political use. For this I can see any group that tries to make a statement in the means of violence can be seen as a terrorist. Unfortunately terrorism is everywhere and no one can avoid it. I think that everyone will experience it, in their lives. I think using violence for intimidation and influence is just another cowardly way to express your beliefs. I see terrorist being violent political groups and it is interesting to think that gangs is seen to be terrorist. I agree with some students who relate gangs to terrorist, but only to some extent. Our biggest type of terrorism that has occurred was the latest 9/11. This is a great example o f how terrorist can act and succeed in their violent acts.
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csaldivarcj33007
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Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2007 11:49 pm | 52nd Post |
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In response to mdelgadoCJ31507...
I can see how you would think that gangs wont be considered terrorist because of the manner they do things. But to some extent, you have to think beyond the racial gangs (black, latino) and think about othe gangs out there. Thats why i beleive that gangs can be considered terrorist only to some extent. Some kill because people dont think beleive in what they want them too and sometimes the result will end up in death.
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JDCJ33007
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 01:04 am | 53rd Post |
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| I believe that terrorism is to be takin seriously in our time, especially in regards to the criminal justice system.Terrorists put fear in people, and use religion as there focus. Terrorists use the threat of violence directed at people and government. Because of this we will have to focus on terrorism forever.
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JDCJ33007
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 01:05 am | 54th Post |
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| i agree that terrorists use violence against other people, especially for political use. And because of this we must have our criminal justice system focus on terrorism for years to come.
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cparkercj31507
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 11:53 pm | 55th Post |
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I am a little late in my response to this question but after reading the postings I felt compelled to participate.
Having been a soldier prior to 9/11 I can safely say that terrorism has existed long before that fateful day. I also agree that gangs have very little to do with terrorism on the homefront. Yes, gangs are dangerous but they are nothing like the global terrorists we have to face today.
There are countries in Asia and all over the world that want to acquire Nuclear weapons by any means necessary just to become a viable threat to our safety. Not long ago we were faced with the Cold War where Nuclear Weapons were a viable asset to a country's arsenal and something that was required to be taken seriously by the US and other nations. Now, all it takes is a threat of biological or chemical weapons and suicide bombings to send us in a panic.
These are the things that law enforcement agencies of all sizes and prestige deal with on a daily basis. It is their responsibility to protect their community from any and all harm at any cost possible. It is just a shame that it takes something like 9/11 to happen to open our eyes to these threats and to recognize those that deal with it everyday.
Catrina
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cparkercj31507
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 11:58 pm | 56th Post |
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csaldivarcj33007 wrote: I see terrorism as a source of violence against others, mostly for political use. For this I can see any group that tries to make a statement in the means of violence can be seen as a terrorist. Unfortunately terrorism is everywhere and no one can avoid it. I think that everyone will experience it, in their lives. I think using violence for intimidation and influence is just another cowardly way to express your beliefs. I see terrorist being violent political groups and it is interesting to think that gangs is seen to be terrorist. I agree with some students who relate gangs to terrorist, but only to some extent. Our biggest type of terrorism that has occurred was the latest 9/11. This is a great example o f how terrorist can act and succeed in their violent acts.
I agree that terrorism can be used for all sorts of uses, the most prominent being political and religious means. It is true that terrorism can take many forms and it is becoming more prevalent with each passing day. Our hugest attack at home was 9/11 but our soldiers overseas in Iraq deal with terrorism everyday because our government (President Bush & Republicans), cannot accept the fact that what they are doing is not working and that we need to recharge ourselves and take a new stance on the continuing fight against terrorism.
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bschweigertcj33007
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 02:09 am | 57th Post |
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csaldivarcj33007 wrote: In response to mdelgadoCJ31507...
I can see how you would think that gangs wont be considered terrorist because of the manner they do things. But to some extent, you have to think beyond the racial gangs (black, latino) and think about othe gangs out there. Thats why i beleive that gangs can be considered terrorist only to some extent. Some kill because people dont think beleive in what they want them too and sometimes the result will end up in death.
I think that gangs can definately be considered a terrorist group. In class we discussed the definition for terrorism as: 1. invoking fear on public/society and 2. trying to influence the public for political, social, or religious reasons. If this an acceptable definition of terrorism than i believe that even street level gangs can be considered terrorist organization. It might not be a international/multi country terrorist network, but they participate in illegal crimes that our book discussed such as money laundering, and drug/arms trafficking. Also street level gangs definately invoke fear on society. If I were in LA and saw a group of men wearing red, with tattoos, bandanas, and whatever else gang members wear i would be fearful for my life. I may not be the target of the gang violence but i would still be stricken with fear. To cover the next requirement of influencing the public for politics, social, or religion; i think that street level gang members are trying to influence people both for social and political reasons; they are anti-established law, by blatantly promoting violence, and promoting a life of crime which is very anti law.
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bschweigertcj33007
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 02:13 am | 58th Post |
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that's basically what i was talking about (drameycj31507) gangs in America are basically homegrown terrorists.
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KGrowCJ31507
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 07:05 am | 59th Post |
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| We all know September 11th was a terrorist attack. This event changed the lives of many Americans forever. The U.S. Department of State defines terrorism as the premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by transnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience. September 11th was both premeditated and politically motivated to open the eyes of America. The book defines terrorism as the use or threat of violence directed at people or governments to punish them for past action and/or to bring about a change of policy that is to the terrorist's liking. September 11th was an act done by those who do not like the way the U.S. is ran. Instead of hurting a single person, the act of September 11th affected our country as a whole.
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KGrowCJ31507
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 07:15 am | 60th Post |
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| I never really thought to categorize gangs as terrorist, but after reading the statements being posted about this subject, it actually makes sense. Not all gangs fall in this category because all gangs are different, possessing different intentions as well. But some gangs can and do fit the definition provided for terrorist acts.
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