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mamonunion
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 Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:38 am61st Post
Having gone through some Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) training I can honestly say that terrorism is truly a frightening thing and all I can do is hope that I don't have to be a first responder to an act of terrorism.

As far as technology goes, it seems that funding terrorist acts through computer related crimes would be the most viable and efficient way of doing business for these terrorists.  It would also give us our best edge in identifying them given the time and resources prior to an attack.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 10:37 am62nd Post
I agree that technology has become a trademark of terrorist both domestic and global.  From the simple use of a cellphone to remotely trigger an IED to the sophisticated networks of Internet communications they use.

Recently, I was researching WMD for a class I teach at Mt. San Antonio College. When I entered chemical weapons and suitcase bombs I was taken to websites in the mid east. The sites were written in Arabic or a similar language.  The scary part was the photos they had on them regarding my inquiries.

Then of course there is always the potential for a technology terrorist attack. One in which they take down a power grid or impact the stock market.  On it's face it may seem like that would not be of consequence, yet it could have dramatic impact on the nation's economy.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 10:49 am63rd Post
I have to agree that terrorism is nothing new.  Many people think of terrorism as something that began with the first bombing of the World Trade Center.  Terrorist attacks such as plane hijackings and bombings go back to the 70's with fundamental extremists.

Terrorism itself is as old as mankind. Just how old is mankind? Well the Bible reports that Adam and Eve occupied the Garden of Eden. Where was the Garden of Eden? Again using the Bible as a historic text, it says that Eden was located between the confluence of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers.  You may know it better as Iraq!

So just where did terrorism start? Did it start with Cain slaying Abel? David slaying Goliath? The Crusaders slaying the Muslims? The Native Americans raiding towns or wagon trains?  Yes terrorism is not knew.

The biggest problem with terrorism is that people focus on the extremest from the mid-east and overlook the domestic terrorist such as Timothy Mcveigh.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 10:07 pm64th Post
I agree that terrorism is not a new tactic for war. IED's are an example of a tactical attack on U.S. troops and a tactic for detention of bombs from cellphones in an urban location (terrorist attack). 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 03:12 am65th Post
Technology has definately aided in the spread of terrorism.  With this in mind, it is important that we (as first responders) learn and further develop technology in order to prevent and combat future terrorist acts.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 04:43 am66th Post
There are many faces of Terrorisms that, we as citizens of this country, are unaffected by.  Our soldiers in the middle east are in the greatest need for the latest technology.  Not only to track down the terrorists who are willing to die to kill them, but also to protect the citizens of Iraq and Afghanistan.  We have a duty as a country to demand our government to support all necessary research to find the way to track down anyone trying to hurt us physically, economically and as a free country.  What I find most frightening about Terrorism is the fact that there are people who hate us and our way of life so much that they are willing to die to kill innocent people to make a point. 

We must also recognize that even technology has its limitations when we are confronted by an enemy whose limited technology is highly effective against our high technology.  For example, we can have the most advanced equipment but it does little when our enemy is able to strap on a bomb vest made from common household materials.  A multi-million space satellite with capability of listening to people's phone and radio communication is useless against an enemy who delivers its most important messages by someone riding a donkey and living in a cave. 

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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 10:11 pm67th Post
With this in mind, it is important that we (as first responders) learn and further develop technology in order to prevent and combat future terrorist acts.

 Based on Peralta's post, It is a necessity, to have an interoperability system in line in order to prevent and combat  future major incidents/terrorist attacks.

 

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 04:01 am68th Post
I completely agree.  I also believe that there is a lot of good work being completed behind the scene's by those that are tech savvy, on our side.  But, you are right, first responders and law enforcement as a whole needs to be prepared and become familiar with new technological advancements.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2007 12:24 am69th Post
I agree with you as well, I feel that there is an untapped resource in technology by most first responders. Most police officers/firefighters usually fight new change and new ideas. They are more comfortable doing it the "old way"

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 Posted: Sun Nov 25th, 2007 09:29 pm70th Post
I recently attended  a HIDTA / CLEAR terrorism for patrol officers course.  this course covered a number of issues as they apply to policing on a streel level officer including signs/indicators to look out for including recon of soft targets by terrorist cells already in our counrty........ and they are everywhere.  Most disturbing was the number that have already been located and taken into custody as well as those that have been seen in groups of 3-7 conducting video recon of soft targets such as piers and other high traffic tourist locations.

This course touched on the FBI Carnivore program which could seek out and  identify  questionable terrorist related  emails.   It was highly effetive until it came to public light that it was in operationn and what its capabilities were.  with the aanoucement of our tactics and capabilities to the public, ccame the announncement of our tactics and capabilities to terrorists. so how are they able to now communicate via email wile circumventing the multi-billion dollar Carnivore program?  As simple as nsolerunion's post about their sometimes low technology defeating our high technology.  They simply type their letter/directive/ops plan and save it in "Drafts".  They then give each member of the cell the username and password of the email account, where they will log in and simply go to the saved draft and obtain the informaiton.  the Carnivore program will never "See/intercept" this email as it will never be "Sent" over the web but can be viewed by anybody in the world with a computer and the correct username and password. 

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 Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:57 am71st Post
In my course, I feel that I have learned to look at terrorism from a broader perspective than I had before.  I used to just think about terrorism as it was related on TV.  Now, I look at it from different angles, wheter it be criminal or political.  i fel that the act of terorism affets us all, whether we are in law enforcement or not.  it affects us emotionaly and, in some rare cases, personally by losing a loved one.  i hope that the acts never reach my family.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:59 am72nd Post

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 Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 06:01 am73rd Post
I wonder if there will be technology in the future to take care of the issue you mentioned here.  I am sure once we discover it, the crooks and terrorists will have moved on to something different.


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