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 Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 11:18 pm1st Post
All Union Institute and University Summer 2008
(Includes Session I, Session II and Semester Learners)

You must make two posts to receive full credit. 
Discuss how what you have learned thus far will impact your career.  For those of you currently in criminal justice, take the lead.  Tell your future colleagues how you see what you are learning having a direct impact on what you are doing now.  For those of you whose careers are yet in the future, how as what you have learned changed what you think about your potential career?  Recall that you are to, at a minimum, make one original post, and then respond to one other person.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 11:35 am2nd Post
I am currently taking the Computer Crimes course.  This course is proving to be very beneficial in my career as a law enforcement officer.  Through this class I have learned about digital evidence.  I would not have thought much about it, since I would normally rely on the "Techies"  in the Detective Bureau to recover and seize digital evidence.

However, I now realize that the first responders are a critical link in the seizing and preservation of digital evidence.  Like DNA, digital evidence can be perishable and a significant factor in a successful prosecution.

In addition to digital evidence this class has provided a wealth of information about how to track down IP information, domain information and other sources of information that can help locate or identify an offender.

This class is teaching this old dog new tricks.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 08:10 pm3rd Post
Don,

You are right!  I took the computer crimes course a couple of sessions back and I gained an enormous amount of information to benefit me in my career of law enforcement. 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 08:15 pm4th Post
Currently, I am enrolled in CRJ 410, Criminal Justice Management Information System Tutorial and I have gained knowledge about the current issues in the field of criminal justice and how they have impacted criminal organizations and personnel.  In addition, technology has changed crime and created a new arena of crime for people in law enforcement to deal with on an everyday basis. 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 09:26 pm5th Post
Jgraham

Sounds like the Computer Crimes class has benefited both of us.  I am amazed at how much of an understanding I have now about computers and the net.  Even more impressive are all the sources of information available, just a matter of knowing how and where to look.

Good luck with the Criminal Justice Management Information System tutorial class.  My last several classes have been tutorial and I find it much more effective for learning.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:44 pm6th Post
This course PUA450 has a text book "Business, Government and Society" that contains a number of applicable principles that I have recently applied in my work environment.  There are case studies that piont out a variety of pearls for managers and leaders. 

 



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 Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 05:43 am7th Post
Currently, my department is going through a major technological "makeover."  We've began using new MDC's (including a whole new system).  The plan is to be using our own CAD system within a year. Since we are a small department it has taken quite sometime for these changes to occur. 

The information covered in the text (Police Technology) has helped me to have a better understanding of just how a CAD system will benefit me as an officer in the field and how to use it to its fullest extent.  This course has been very beneficial to my daily activities. 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 05:48 am8th Post
darbuthnott,

I have not taken PUA 450 yet but it sounds like it will be beneficial for my career.  I look forward to reading "Business, Government, and Society."

Good Luck the rest of the way,

Jkeen

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 Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 03:47 am9th Post
The information in the text is very informative.  I have to say I am not a very big computer user...I have learned more than I thought I would ever know about LAN's and WAN's and servers.  I appreciate the understanding of the tools that I use daily.  To me, I feel that computer talk is sort of like chemistry...it takes a special mind to understand it.  Although, I feel as though I will never be an expert on computers or technology, I will understand more now than if I had not taken this class.  Technology is advancing daily...in law enforcement it's crucial to "keep up with the times".  I appreciate the tools provided in my city, CAD, good radio communication, and GPS/AVL on our MDT's in our cars. I can tell you that the mapping system has reduced response times and helped to set perimeters on "hot" calls.  The map on the screen in front of yo allows you to immediately know where you need to have officers set up.  This leads to more suspects being apprehended and again, faster response times. 

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:11 am10th Post
I think as a patrol officer we are disadvantaged when we rely on detectives or crime lab to handle all the evidence.  I know at my department we are so busy we basically put a band aide on the situation and forward it to detectives.  The detectives then follow up with the case a few weeks later.  I know....I have lost out on a lot of knowledge and ability due to this practice.  If we as patrol officers had the opportunity to collect and follow up with evidence, we would be much better at handling and understanding it and its importance.  I worked for a department prior to my current department where we had the opportunity to complete our investigations.  I felt that made for a much more well rounded officer. 

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 Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 09:04 pm11th Post
I am currently taking criminal justice classes 410 & 304. This course is very helpful. These courses are very helpful, there is allot of information available to law enforcement  that I didn't know was available. The material is great and I`m trying my hardest to finish all the necessary course. 

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 Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 02:28 pm12th Post
When I began the class, "Information systems" I had very little knowledge of how the computer systems, that I use every day during my investigations, work. I now have a better understanding as to how the systems work but also the technology behind them. What has helped me most is learning what systems are now available that can enhance my investigations.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 02:34 pm13th Post
Jkeen,

I know what you are going through. We are currently in the planning stages for a new police station. You can only imagine how many issues we are dealing with.    

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 Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 02:51 pm14th Post
Dcardoz

I am the detective sergeant at my department, and we have a program which rotates a patrol officer into the detective bureau for a year. During that year, the officer handles a caes load just like any other detective, files cases and handles evidence. This program has many benefits. First, the officer has the opportunity to learn about the evidence process, how to file cases with the DA, and learn some new investigative techniques. It also give the officer an opportunity to read "many" reports and learn what is needed during the patrol field investigation, that is sometimes left out. The program is also good for the department because it allows for a little more movement and a chance to do something new that will enhance their ability to investigate crimes once they are back in the field. So far, this program has been working well, you might want to purpose  this idea to you admin.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 02:09 am15th Post
I think that program is an amazing idea!  I love that you give your officers the ability to experience that.  I would jump at the opportunity!  I would bring this up to admin, however I am currently looking to relocate to southern California.  I would not be able to follow through with the idea and what would be needed to pitch it.  But, I am close to the AC. I will definitley put a bug in her ear.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 08:13 am16th Post
kbragolecjm410brea wrote: Dcardoz

I am the detective sergeant at my department, and we have a program which rotates a patrol officer into the detective bureau for a year. During that year, the officer handles a caes load just like any other detective, files cases and handles evidence. This program has many benefits. First, the officer has the opportunity to learn about the evidence process, how to file cases with the DA, and learn some new investigative techniques. It also give the officer an opportunity to read "many" reports and learn what is needed during the patrol field investigation, that is sometimes left out. The program is also good for the department because it allows for a little more movement and a chance to do something new that will enhance their ability to investigate crimes once they are back in the field. So far, this program has been working well, you might want to purpose  this idea to you admin.
This was suggested by our new chief (of 2 years), with a slight difference.  His thoughts are to have each probationer come through the bureau for approximately 3 months to get their feet wet.   Do you (as a DB Sgt.) feel this is too soon for the young officers, or do you find that this is helpful?  I'm not sure that I'm too cool with the idea, as I find more and more new officers already overwhelmed with all the patrol stuff they are learning anyways!  In one ear, out the other, but only because there's so much going on.   Thoughts?

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 08:16 am17th Post
CJM410-

This course is helpful to me as a new supv as it provides more information that I can share for briefing trainings, as well as have a few more resources to turn to.  There is quite a bit of technical stuff, but then again, this is a good thing, because there is SO much to refer to.

This course will also assist me in future promotions.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 05:25 pm18th Post
Regarding "New " officers being assigned to the detective bureau, If the chief is willing to try this program, that's a good thing! But in my opinion , it is too much, too soon. The officer needs a least a year in patrol to learn Basic crime investigation from their FTO program. I don't mean to sound pompous, But if a new officer was assigned to the detective bureau right out of the academy, it would be more of a baby sitting job for the other detectives. To learn and be "productive" in the bureau, the officer needs time in patrol. I am sure the officer would learn some valuable information, but its like puting the cart before the horse.      

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 06:13 pm19th Post
kbragolecjm410brea wrote: Regarding "New " officers being assigned to the detective bureau, If the chief is willing to try this program, that's a good thing! But in my opinion , it is too much, too soon. The officer needs a least a year in patrol to learn Basic crime investigation from their FTO program. I don't mean to sound pompous, But if a new officer was assigned to the detective bureau right out of the academy, it would be more of a baby sitting job for the other detectives. To learn and be "productive" in the bureau, the officer needs time in patrol. I am sure the officer would learn some valuable information, but its like puting the cart before the horse.      
Agree, wholeheartedly, especially being a former detective!!! ;)

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 Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 10:33 pm20th Post
My Department tried this over the past 5 years and as a Detective Lieutenant it has failed. Instead of having go-to Detectives we are always in the training mode. The theory I have applied to this is: If you had a family member with a serious medical issue and you had to pick a Doctor. Do you pick the best Doctor who has a track record or the Doctor who is up on the list because it is his turn?

Just food for thought


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