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mconnortwintowers410
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 04:03 pm | 21st Post |
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| Been in law enforcement 27 years. I have enjoyed this Police Technology course more than I thought I would. The basic police stuff that we do, i.e., hook and book, traffic enforcemnet, special teams, detective, homicide, cool guns, cops and robbers is all good. But what I have realized, is that technology is coming into police work at a fairly fast pace. So, I have learned to embrace it. For the most part I like it and I believe it now has a role in law enforcement.
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mconnortwintowers410
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 04:24 pm | 22nd Post |
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Response to 5th post.
I agree. I liked your response. When I finish this degree program, it will open up doors, while i'm in law enforcement and when I retire. I should have also, done this a long time ago. The last time I was in school was when I graduated from high school in 1975.
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ESanchez410Brea
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 04:59 pm | 23rd Post |
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One key lesson I have learned in this program thus far is that "Leadership has more to do with how you treat your people and less about how much technical knowledge you possess." Technical knowledge, however, is still also very important.
I currently hold a supervisory position and have noticed I am more conscious about the little things, like criticising in private and praising in public (as often as possible).
While taking the Police Technology course, it has become quite apparent that almost everything we do in the law enforcement field will soon involve some form of new technology. For this reason, I already plan on taking computer courses after completing my degree to update my computer skills.
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ESanchez410Brea
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:07 pm | 24th Post |
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rdavisunion wrote: I am with you regarding going further. a think i will take a short break while i look for a good masters program.
And after that, you should probably start looking for a good doctorate program. I'm in the process of finishing my BS Degree and just found out two of my subordinates are currently in doctorate programs. These are line patrol officers.
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scottt410brea
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 06:56 am | 25th Post |
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| When I thought about technology, my brain went straight to computers. This class has helped me discover there is a lot more to technology than computers. For example, I've always taken the car and hand-held radios for granted. I realize now that radios are, in fact, technology and are still improving. The amount of technology for police work is astounding. I have 8 years on now and I talk to some of the "old timers" and find out how far we've come.
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scottt410brea
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 07:02 am | 26th Post |
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D. Bell,,,You certainly aren't the only person that is missing the technology gene. I always joke that this career requires a G.E.D. and a driver's license, but we're trying to change that 
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JDOBBS410BREA
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 01:26 pm | 27th Post |
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| It has taken me many years to go back to college and finish my degree, but it is so well worth it. It has been a personal goal to finish and im getting so close to end or it can just be the begging. Ive learned about myself that I enjoy the learning enviroment and bettering myself. This whole experience has been great and im glad with the decisions i have made.
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JDOBBS410BREA
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 01:31 pm | 28th Post |
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| I agree keeping an open mind is important. Ive learned that my train of thought isn't always the best way and that if you listen to others you can learn alot
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LaW410Brea
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 10:20 pm | 29th Post |
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ESanchez410Brea wrote: rdavisunion wrote: I am with you regarding going further. a think i will take a short break while i look for a good masters program.
And after that, you should probably start looking for a good doctorate program. I'm in the process of finishing my BS Degree and just found out two of my subordinates are currently in doctorate programs. These are line patrol officers.
My department is a very small one. We have a chief and three sergeants. While going back to school was initially to better myself and to set a good example for my family; I discovered that none of the sergeants have nothing more than an associates degree. I've been bringing things I've learned here at Union to work; and, I've encouraged them to go to Union to continue their education too.
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WWMCBrea410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 02:13 am | 30th Post |
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cjustice wrote: Discuss how what you have learned thus far will impact your career. Tell your future colleagues how you see what you are learning having a direct impact on what you are doing now.
Generally speaking: What I've learned thusfar has influenced my ideas on leadership and the correct way to supervise others. Our Department offers this type of training, however I've connected much more with what is being taught at Union. I quickly recognized a unique quality of the classes here with everyone being in LE: When it comes to class discussions and real-life examples, you don't have to listen to a bunch of non-related stuff before the pont is reached; everyone has such great examples of 'what' and 'how' it is done and the observed results elsewhere.
Specifically: For my response post, I'll be commenting on a technology specific issue. In my assignment, I get to both recommend and purchase technology items. I've always been cautious because of seeing so much $$$ wasted on things that don't work. The Technology class (and book) has reinforced this belief and expanded my knowledge about where to go to find out more about technologies and proper evaluation for implementation into the Department. BILL
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WWMCBrea410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 02:45 am | 31st Post |
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SteveS410Brea wrote: Well, what I have learned so far is I am lost... I have never been a computer person and I have 50 million things going on. I am suprised I figured out how to do this threading thing without my wife's help. Reading the book, I ask myself "how is a "BIT" going to help me catch someone"? I guess I don't really care how something works as long as it works. The one thing I will take from this course is the reference web-sites. I see that as being the biggest help to us. What does anyone else think?
Steve, I think this is not only about "the Technology", but how to properly manage Technology. Today there is an article in the L.A. Times about LAPD's on-line crime map. Did you know there were a total of over 1,300 crimes occurring at the Civic Center since the map's inception three years ago)....or were there? This skew was obviously caused by improper input (using the P.D. address).
The bigger questions are how much $$$ was spent to produce this, is the map really valid, why wasn't the person overseeing the technology watching, and what changes in attitude will taxpayers have about LAPD and money? That's where the knowledge about how to manage technology comes in. BILL
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-geocoding-errors5-2009apr05,3,2575580.story
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storres410brea
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 06:48 am | 32nd Post |
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| I have learned alot of cool and intresting information on police technology. I especially enjoy the pre class information on promotional exams. I for one feel a bit "behind the times" when it comes to all these gizmos that are out there. I have enough trouble figuing out certain procedures on a computer.
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storres410brea
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 06:53 am | 33rd Post |
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| How is that so if you work with detectives all day long. You should be an expert in the area of performing attatchments to emails. The truth is we are alot alike. I have the same trouble you do with all this technlogy stuff. Well hopefully all these classes were taken will make us a little bit more proficient in this area soon. Best of luck!
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a.montalvo twintowers410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 07:29 am | 34th Post |
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| I have learned alot about Police technology. Their is still so much for me to learn, especially whend it comes to computers. I think what i have learned thus far will help me with future courses.
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a.montalvo twintowers410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 07:49 am | 35th Post |
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| I have learned alot about Police technology so far in this course. However, their still so much for me to learn, especially whend it comes to computers. I think what i learn thus far will help me with future courses.
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a.montalvo twintowers410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 07:55 am | 36th Post |
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| I know exactly how you feel, I also promised myself and a big goal of mine is to finish school.
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cbakertwintowers410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 10:53 pm | 37th Post |
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I have been in law enforcement for almost 14 years. During this time I have worked a variety of positions, including promoting to Sergeant. What I have learned is that technology is ever evolving and it can only benefit us. The fact that we can know positivily ID someone in the field is amazing. I for one can not wait to see what new technologies will emerg to help us fight crime.
I hope that as I grow older, I continue to embrace the new technologies and not shy away from things that I do not understand. I plan to learn how to use them to my advantage.
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rrojas410brea
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 11:03 pm | 38th Post |
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| Education has never been a requirement for promotion within the Montebello PD, in fact our Chief only has a GED ( I know this is not normal or effective). For the longest time I believed I could get by on my experience. Since returning to school at UI&U I now see that you need more than just experience and being a good cop to be an effective leader.
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cbakertwintowers410
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 11:04 pm | 39th Post |
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In response to Post 27:
I agree with you. I graduated from High School 17 years ago and have not returned. When I promoted to Sergeant, I had to wait until the 2nd list of promotions due to the fact I did not have a degree. I promised myself that I would get my Bachelor degree before I took the Lieutenant's exam. UI&U has made this very easy for me. When I finish my Bachelor's, I plan on going straight into a Master's Program. Being a full time mommy with another on the way, will make things difficult, but with 20 years left on the department, I know I will need those degrees if I plan on promoting again.
On top of that, I don't want my daughters to have any excuse not to attend college. If I can do it while working full time and pregnant, then they can do it right out of high school! 
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ktaliankounion
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 04:34 am | 40th Post |
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One of the major points I believe I have absorbed in this specific class is that through the use of different technologies, this message forum being one of those methods, one is really never alone when dealing with complex issues. There is always a method out there that one can utilize to find out the information for which he/she is searching.
For individuals yet to join the profession of law enforcement, if you don't know already, very few occupations today require the need to have such different varieties of information from a multitude of different subjects, at your fingertips. Because seconds can mean the difference between life and death sometimes, the ability to access and retrieve information in a timely manner is critical. It is comforting knowing that today's communication technologies can put you in touch NOW with that someone who has the answer for your dilemma. Not knowing the answer, or where to get it, during a crisis, can be sickening.
Last edited on Tue Apr 7th, 2009 04:40 am by ktaliankounion
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