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 Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 09:19 am1st Post
This is participation number two for students in the following courses:

All Union Institute and University Winter 2009

(Includes Session I, Session II and Semester Learners)

You must make two posts to receive full credit.  

Discuss how what you have learned thus far will impact your career.  For those of you currently in government service, take the lead.  Tell your future colleagues how you see what you are learning having a direct impact on what you are doing now.  For those of you whose careers are yet in the future, how as what you have learned changed what you think about your potential career?  Recall that you are to, at a minimum, make one original post, and then respond to one other person.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 05:49 am2nd Post
The thing that has most impacted my career, through education and experience, is I really have learned how to be a good listener. As a younger officer, all I wanted to do is get out what I wanted to say, and didn't really want to here what others had to say.

Education has really helped me fine tune this skill at work and in my home life. I've found that through listening, others have taught me some really informative things that have helped me in many ways. Listening has been a good thing for me.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 17th, 2009 05:43 am3rd Post
Hey all, again I'm a seven year police officer and I'm just about finished with my degree at UI&U.  At this point, I've learned to look in several different areas within my community where I can be effective.

From multicultural diversities to terrorism.  We have a responsibility to work above and beyond to protect our communities.  These courses have only made me a more aware cop but also have made me look outside my smal little position. 

 

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 Posted: Tue Feb 17th, 2009 05:47 am4th Post
That's something that we all should take a note of.  Our listening skills in the field are pertinent to our reports, supervision and overall job performance.

It's also difficult to listen to some people more tenured that do not work hard, have no motivation or hustle in the field.  I can agree sometimes you don't want to listen, but it is also important to show respect.

 

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 Posted: Wed Feb 18th, 2009 03:44 am5th Post
I finish my degree at UI&U the 28th of this month and am looking forward to putting it to work for me in several areas. The degree will now open doors that I never thought would open. Going back to school and completing my BS degree is something I thought I would never do, but it has been an outstanding decision.

I've learned many things in this program, but one main thing I've learned, is to keep an open mind, doing so, I believe you can accomplish anything you direct your energy toward. I should have done this a long time ago.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 18th, 2009 10:23 am6th Post
Getting that BS is a great feeling.....you should shoot for the Master's next buddy...now that you know the BS was worth it!!!!

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 Posted: Fri Feb 20th, 2009 06:17 pm7th Post
Well, i am finishing my degree at the end of the session and this whole experience of furthering my education has been an eye opener.  I have learned that there is much more to the profession than just police work.  we need to work within and for the community and that our individual organizations are just one part of the complete team needed to ensure a safe commnuity.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 20th, 2009 06:18 pm8th Post
I am with you regarding going further.  a think i will take a short break while i look for a good masters program.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 05:16 pm9th Post
The program as a whole has taught me alot about why things happen in law enforcement. I have been a patrol officer for my entire career and must say I did not always see the behind the scenes reasons for things that happened. The education program as a whole has taught me to look deeper into things for understanding of all types of situations.

This course specifically is showing me how much technology and information is actually out there. There are so many resources that most officers just do not even know about and that is putting alot of us behind.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 10:40 pm10th Post
rdavisunion wrote: Well, i am finishing my degree at the end of the session and this whole experience of furthering my education has been an eye opener.  I have learned that there is much more to the profession than just police work.  we need to work within and for the community and that our individual organizations are just one part of the complete team needed to ensure a safe commnuity.
I could not agree with you more. I must admit I did not realize how much education and resources were out there relating to law enforcement and all the layers to it. You hit in on the head about this experience being an eye opener.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009 09:00 pm11th Post
Well, what I have learned so far is I am lost...:shock:  I have never been a computer person and I have 50 million things going on.  I am suprised I figured out how to do this threading thing without my wife's help.  Reading the book, I ask myself "how is a "BIT" going to help me catch someone"?  I guess I don't really care how something works as long as it works.  The one thing I will take from this course is the reference web-sites.  I see that as being the biggest help to us.  What does anyone else think?

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 06:09 pm12th Post
I agree, there are many things these classes bring to us adult learners in law enforcement.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 07:02 pm13th Post
Agreed as far as getting your Masters...  Though I would not give back my time in the Marine Corps, I wish I would have finished my BS years ago.  Life got in the way and my priority was my kids and the Corps.  Working in a Prison for 3 years and on the streets for 4 now, I would have been promoted last year if I had a degree.  My written test was a couple of points off the highest and I came really close to maxing out the inside and outside orals.  The only thing I could have scored higher on is in education and that would have put me in the top 5 (we promoted 4 and I am sitting 7th now)...  Now that my oldest is looking at colleges to go to, I am scrambling to get my degree done.  I have told her I am going to get my Masters before her and she laughs at me...  (damn teenagers...:P)...

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 11:31 pm14th Post
What I have learned in law enforcemnet is that the higher you promote the more politics you have to play. My suggestions to all is that even as you move up continue to always do the right thing!

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 11:36 pm15th Post
Steve,

I couldn't agree with you more about being "lost" in this technology world. Just when I think I undretsnad why and how something works here comes the updates and the changes. I just try and hold on and I know that when I need what we learn suddenly it will just jump out at us.
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 Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 05:36 pm16th Post
I really feel like an idiot when it comes to technology. I can only do very basic things on a computer and if something is not working right, I wouldn't know where to begin to get it fixed. I even have trouble attaching documents to e-mails. Hopefully this class will better gear me up for new ways to solve crime through technology.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 05:40 pm17th Post
congratulations on your degree.  Keep going.  Never stop learning and striving to better yourself:)

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 Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 03:21 am18th Post
Having actually worked as a technology professional for a dozen years prior to law enforcement, my department has put me to use evaluating and deploying technology systems for the past four years. This class has actually re-framed how I think about technology and law enforcement. In addition to how technology can be used as a force multiplier, I will also consider how technology can actually create officer safety issues and work to develop appropriate SOPs.

Law enforcement is lacking skilled individuals that truly understand both the law and technology sides. That being said -be forewarned that it is human nature to categorize and cubbyhole individuals. If you work in police technology as a cop, you run the risk of getting stuck with the organizational perception that you are the department geek - a mold that may be challenging to break out of.

If you get in, get in with a defined plan to get out. You are forewarned.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 03:37 am19th Post
dbell410brea wrote: I really feel like an idiot when it comes to technology.

 
Computer “IT” folks would feel like an idiots when it comes to police work.

There is no reason why you should be an expert it this stuff. Hopefully your department provides adequate training in the technologies they want you to use.

May I suggest you set modest goals and take baby steps?  Learning builds on learning. Over the long haul you will have amassed a significant amount of technology knowledge. Computers aren’t going away any time soon.

Technology creates yet another divide in society, and in our own agencies. There are two categories of people; those who can rapidly access, process and present information and those who cannot. In this divide we can choose the side we are on.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 11:24 am20th Post
I really like this class more than I thought I would originally.  My motto used to be, "I don't care how the toaster is wired.  I just want it to make toast."  But now that things have been broken down a little more for me, the light bulb is getting brighter.  I'm excited about what I've learned in this class as well as the others.  I find myself already applying some of the things I've learned at my current job.  It has given me more confidence to continue my education and begin something new, yet, still stay in the law enforcement field.


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